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The HuffPo Vegan Wishes You A Very Self-Righteous Thanksgiving

gawkimo — Thu, 22 Nov 2007 07:51:37 EST

Dude, Hyphy, anyone who thinks that eating honey is a moral violation against bees and that butter is exploitation of cows is not right, but rather fucking loco. What the hell are you doing on the Internet, anyway. Internet runs on electricity fueled by burning coal. Own a car? Use laundry detergent? The problem with smug self-righteousness in this regard (as expressed in your fundamentalist-extremist views on eating) is that ALL human beings waste and damage the world. So unless you're a prophet living in a cave on a hill drinking water and eating plain rice: fuck you, hypocrite.

gawkimo

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MisterHippity — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:35:32 EST

@HyphyForLifey: No, no, you aren't self-righteous at all. Not in the least. Thanks for clearing that up for us.

MisterHippity

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HyphyForLifey — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:03:29 EST

who the hell is this pareene? YOU SUCK. vegans aren't self-righteous, they're RIGHT. i hope you eat a turkey infested with male hormones and grow a nasty beard and never get laid again. (if youre a girl. not sure bout that one. if you're a guy, i hope your dick falls off)

HyphyForLifey

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VespaVirgin — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:38:45 EST

@NinaHagen: Nina, why are you making a turkey? Isn't your namesake an animal rights activist? I recall her being all over the PETA compilations from the 80s, with Lene Lovich and the Smiths. That said, you still need a working oven for vegan swedish meatballs. I'm sorry you feel like Katie Holmes.

VespaVirgin

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Go Like Hell Machine — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:34:04 EST

@TWSS: Though, the idea of cramming a vegan full of egg- and chicken stock-based stuffing just to bake and eat them is one that warms my probably failing heart.

Go Like Hell Machine

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noyokono — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:59:32 EST

@DiabetesExplosion:

Vegans are too gamey for my taste...

noyokono

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TWSS — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:50:33 EST

Yeah, I'd substitute a vegan for my thanksgiving turkey, but it's too difficult to cram the stuffing up their puckered little buttholes.

TWSS

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Go Like Hell Machine — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:09:38 EST

@DiabetesExplosion: Oh, you don't want to do that. They're much too dry.

Go Like Hell Machine

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teledingo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:57:15 EST

When I was a kid we'd make those hand turkey drawings but with only the middle finger extened. A kind of "F.U." Thanksgiving! I am somehow reminded of this now.

teledingo

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princepumpkinbeepster — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:44:31 EST

Vegan food rots in your stomach.

princepumpkinbeepster

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What it is — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:32:20 EST

they're just irritable because they're hungry...duh!

What it is

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Tribeca_Hilton — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:32:03 EST

@dola: @nutmeg:
The first of doubtless many Thanksgiving blow-ups. Feels just like home. Now, which one of you is gonna get up from the table and stomp up to the guest room?

Tribeca_Hilton

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Carol Gardens — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:14:25 EST

A far more destructive article was the one a while back that noted the potential danger of making the stuffing IN the turkey. I could just cry. My aunt took it seriously and never made her sublime stuffing in the bird again. GRRRR....

Carol Gardens

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gawkimo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:03:09 EST

By the way: WTF is this smug self-righteous prick doing celebrating the theft of land by meat-eating Christians from the heathens in the first place?

gawkimo

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dola — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:03:01 EST

@nutmeg: Was the part there he talked about overhauling the entire system after the jump? I missed it. He's positing this as a way of saying, 'see, everyone can eat a little meat and still be ahead of herbivores!' But in reality we're getting meat from a mass production process that does not allow for grazing or really any movement, while placing an giant burden on water resources while polluting the environment. Single issue "what if's" like this are only interesting if they're possible under existing circumstances. So again I ask, what % of meat production for humanity is or could be in anyway connected with sustainable farming techniques under current economic conditions?

Until things change in the way people, and not just the well-off free range buying niche, get the calories they need, pass the peas. If you want to eat meat, fine, just don't deceive yourself.

dola

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hypocriteoath — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:59:49 EST

@katastic: well, free range vegans anyways.

hypocriteoath

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katastic — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:49:59 EST

Vegans taste best in a nice cream sauce.

katastic

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EnviousJuno — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:43:53 EST

Does anyone else find dressing a turkey unbelievably obscene? In a good way?

EnviousJuno

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nutmeg — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:42:15 EST

@dola: By taking advantage of crop rotation and better land management strategies, grazing animals actually decrease the amount of land needed to obtain the same calories.

nutmeg

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gticlutchburn — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:41:08 EST

@mcginstein: honestly, I don't really believe in god, except when I am eating pork. An animal that delicious is proof enough for me that someone up there is looking out for us.

gticlutchburn

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nutmeg — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:40:16 EST

@dola: Yes.

nutmeg

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dola — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:39:27 EST

@nutmeg: I did read it. If "everyone in the world" ate meat, even in those relatively small portions, which are far from the Western norm, let alone at Atkin's levels, we'd need a couple of planets. Does this fantasy where six billion people who can afford to eat a harmonious mix of free range meat and veggies also involve a revolution where factory farming is eliminated?

P.S. Slavery is life too, for the slaveholder. All the justifications are familiar.

dola

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gingirl — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:32:53 EST

So I suppose this means that he wasn't raised vegan but is one of them "political" vegan types.

I prefer the raised ones, wayyyy less judgemental.

gingirl

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ephronfan — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:29:59 EST

You think he was helping out Pamela Anderson last week when she was volunteering and served vegeterian turkey?

ephronfan

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jenreco — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:28:51 EST

These vegan hissy fits just don't hold (cruelty-free) water. Visiting a turkey farm to do exactly what? Celebrate their imprisonment?

I hope he didn't inhale any turkey particles or step on any turkey by-products while he was there. That's essence-stealing, you know, and it's the same as eating meat!

jenreco

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braak — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:26:54 EST

@DiabetesExplosion: Vegans, as primary consumers, provide the most tender and delicious human meat.

braak

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mcginstein — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:24:39 EST

A friend of mine worked at a farm like that for a month before realizing it was hard as hell work for no money. Those farms are ridiculous. If animals weren't meant to be eaten why would they be so tasty?

mcginstein

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BalknChain — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:24:24 EST

@NinaHagen: My oven's heating element went last year. My husband and I had a huge spat; he wasn't going to call a repairman! After a WWII level argument he took his ass to a store for parts. On the day of his birthday party last year, we lost power with 2 lasagnas in the oven and our 10x30 gazebo got destroyed by winds that were only in the forecast as "gentle breezes." Hah! Yeah, I was holding one leg of an 8 legged tent as it went airborn, rolled over on its top onto our trucks and almost over the our 6 foot privacy fence-with me still holding on shrieking to high heaven and my husband to save me! Would have made great video.

BalknChain

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JudithButler — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:22:09 EST

No expose on the horrors of a Tofurky vat?

JudithButler

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DiabetesExplosion — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:19:00 EST

Screw the turkey, I'm having a vegan for Thanksgiving this year.

DiabetesExplosion

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nutmeg — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:15:20 EST

@nutmeg: linked to. Sorry.

nutmeg

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CatOnMyHead — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:14:14 EST

@NinaHagen: I share your pain. My oven broke this morning with a pie in it - very sad to watch the temperature drop steadily. Now I get to finish cooking in my friend's apartment, where the kitchen is GORGEOUS and unused because he thinks the cooking process is kind of icky and gets his kitchen dirty. ("Well, yes," I said. "You're going to wear an apron," he said, "and I'm going to follow you around with wet-wipes.")

CatOnMyHead

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nutmeg — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:10:22 EST

@dola: Did you read the article I lined to? It's more of a 'what if' kind of thing. i.e. if everybody in the world were vegan vs. if everybody in the world ate at balance of meat and veg.

PS: Bacon is life.

nutmeg

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rubyruby — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:03:42 EST

@dola: Mmmm, the shape is more akin to a loaf of bread or a rounded out football. I'm a vegetarian (I eat eggs, and oh my lord, do I eat ice cream) so for me, Thanksgiving is all about the delicious carb-tastic sides. And pie. Lots of pie. But let me say this as an avid cook: Tofurkey should be banned. No reason any vegan or non-meat eater should resort to such processed crap.

rubyruby

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NinaHagen — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:03:23 EST

@BalknChain: Yeah - you know they're fat - they only send you head shots and they have good grammar.

NinaHagen

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NinaHagen — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:02:40 EST

@NinaHagen: Pieces of April - that's the stupid movie I feel like I'm in.

NinaHagen

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BalknChain — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:02:36 EST

Save a turkey, eat a Gawker blogger

BalknChain

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Reluctant Financier — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:02:00 EST

@MisterHippity: Some guy in my office likes to make those drawings as......... well...... wait...... what office are you in again?

Reluctant Financier

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MisterHippity — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:59:48 EST

@Reluctant Financier: How did you know?

MisterHippity

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NinaHagen — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:59:32 EST

@SarahHeartburn: Don't you kind of have to do that on the roof? I live in a friggin' walk up!

NinaHagen

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fileunder — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:58:30 EST

what happens to vegans should stay with vegans.

fileunder

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dola — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:58:04 EST

@nutmeg: What % of the meat people eat do you think is from animals that are allowed to graze plants from the land? Answer: not enough to justify your love.

dola

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hypocriteoath — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:57:43 EST

@dola: i am pretty sure it doesn't really come in the shape of a turkey... but it should. mental image. and yes, I'm a Mormon.

hypocriteoath

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RufusV2 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:56:38 EST

I don't want to get into a lot of detail here, but my personal experience with turkeys is that they're mean bastards.

RufusV2

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Reluctant Financier — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:55:24 EST

@MisterHippity: Does said rocket drawing come with a smoke cloud beneath it? Because it's really not complete without one.

Reluctant Financier

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MisterHippity — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:53:44 EST

@Reluctant Financier: Hey, I like to make body-part-tracing art! I'd do my drawing of a rocket, but can't because I'm in the office right now.

MisterHippity

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stew — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:52:31 EST

I briefly flirted with veganism, but then it sent me a private message asking if I worked out, what my body type was, and whether I had dated any guys in 31-story condos on Buckhead who drive Beemers. So I dumped it. Veganism is the World's Worst Affectation.

stew

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dola — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:50:07 EST

@hypocriteoath: Tofurkey comes in the shape of a turkey? Are you a moron or trying to make a joke?

With a name like that this must really burn your ass!

dola

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nutmeg — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:48:19 EST

You could always turn their smugness against them. Has anybody else seen this?
[www.treehugger.com]

nutmeg

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SarahHeartburn — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:48:06 EST

@NinaHagen: Put the turkey in the freezer and tomorrow make spaghetti carbonara. Calvin Trillin has a great (old)* piece about how it should be the national dish on Thanksgiving instead of turkey.
*I think it's in Alice, Let's Eat.

SarahHeartburn

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brian griffin — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:47:52 EST

@SinisterRouge: Fried pumpkin pie. Fried ice cream. Fried cranberry sauce.

brian griffin

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gawkimo — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:47:44 EST

We throw buckets of lard on their fake fur jackets.

gawkimo

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MisterHippity — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:43:11 EST

Hey — you stole my four-year-old daughter's drawing!

I expect her to receive a payment in the mail within the next 10 days, or you'll be hearing from my lawyer, KarenUhoh.

MisterHippity

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hypocriteoath — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:42:10 EST

@Koala325: do you see the hypocrisy there? I MEAN... eating tofu on thanksgiving is one thing, but even considering eating tofu in the SHAPE of a turkey and then blasting people for eating meat? Vegans just perpetuate social constructs in their own whiny way, thinking they're doing some good. but really, no.

hypocriteoath

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BettyCrocker — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:41:22 EST

And remember, comrades, your resolution must never falter. No argument must lead you astray. Never listen when they tell you that Man and the
turkeys have a common interest, that the prosperity of the one is the prosperity of the others. It is all lies. Man serves the interests of no creature except himself.

The secret code is "turkey lurkey loo and turkey lurkey lie". Remember, comrades!

BettyCrocker

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SinisterRouge — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:41:07 EST

Is deep-frying the turkey still cool this year? I haven't seen the news warning me about my apt catching on fire from the 7 foot deep fryer yet. Mmmm...fried turkey. Fried potatoes. Fried gravy.

SinisterRouge

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whokilledallthemandelas — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:39:49 EST

@Reluctant Financier: You're on! I'm sketching round my right hand as I dictate this to my secretary.

whokilledallthemandelas

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SarahHeartburn — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:38:22 EST

@NinaHagen: How about a New Orleans style turkey fry? Use a barbecue, fill it up with about 5 gallons of fat, get shit drunk and have a lot of fun. Don't set the kitchen on fire, though.

SarahHeartburn

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Fritzpeterson — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:33:27 EST

mmmm... turkey, with giblets and gravy... and a spiral ham... yum

Fritzpeterson

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koala325 — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:33:14 EST

Vegan friends of mine were set to prepare a tofurky one Thanksgiving. That morning, they took it out of its plastic casing, gagged, and made a nice salad instead.

koala325

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Sarcastro — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:32:12 EST

Vegans ruin everything.

Sarcastro

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lionel-mandrake — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:31:32 EST

@Reluctant Financier: It's like that episode of WKRP..."oh the humanity!"

lionel-mandrake

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BinkysDream — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:30:58 EST

I'm mad...and that's a fact
I found out...animals don't help
Animal think...they're pretty smart
Shit on the ground...see in the dark.

Where's the axe?

BinkysDream

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NinaHagen — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:28:59 EST

@concerned citizen: I prefer to drink blood from baby skulls...Can I just say - I feel like I'm in some stupid indie movie on IFC right now - my oven just broke.

NinaHagen

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Reluctant Financier — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:28:38 EST

We should totally have a Hand-Turkey drawing contest. The winner gets to egg Patrick Waldo's house. Except instead of eggs they, you know, throw turkeys.

Reluctant Financier

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Products Will Save Me — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:26:30 EST

A leather mug made by Cambodian children who are compensated $0.0001 / hr for their trouble. Panda leather, to specify.

Products Will Save Me

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whokilledallthemandelas — Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:24:21 EST

I LOVE drawing-round-your-hand-art! Was that you, Pareene? Delightful.

whokilledallthemandelas