Is The Fox News Era Over? - Gawker Comments

Is The Fox News Era Over?

Stark_pigeon — Fri, 01 Feb 2008 01:18:49 EST

@dankfu: I think we agree with each other. Newspaper has declined. There's better writing on the web.

Perhaps I could have said it better, but what you are saying is what has happened.

Speaking internationally, there is more to be gained through value and information if localized "international" journalism becomes global, or if global journalism becomes localized.

I don't know if you get my drift, but that's kind of how I see it.

Stark_pigeon

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dankfu — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:36:13 EST

Yo, Stark_Pigeon> American Newspaper Journalism hasn't fallen, but rather reformulated itself. Just b/c circ and revenue of the majors have declined doesn't mean there's not tons of e-clowns tooling around the web o'sphere digging the well written word.

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Mediahohoho — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:13:28 EST

And it's always fun to watch the knuckle draggers pull out the tortured comparison to the hated Main Stream Media. No, sorry, you're comparing two very disparate things about as alike as gerbils to steam engines.

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Mediahohoho — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:10:20 EST

Oh come on, people have been predicting the demise of the Ku Klux Klan since it came into being and its devotees still slither into the daylight for the occasional rally. Given its demographic, I think the only thing Fox News really has to fear is a sudden uptick in the popularity of Quietus.

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malvones — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:01:23 EST

This is about 200% premature. Fox News caters to the same category of viewer that chuckles over "wish I knew how to quit you" jokes on conservative radio, and those people haven't simply evaporated.

You might call this a cyclical end to five years of mission accomplished stories and Natalee Holloway recaps, but sure enough they'll find another way to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I mean, the constant in this equation is half the American public.

If you want to celebrate something, there is Murdoch's failure in China.

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weazel — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:48:40 EST

Gr:

Yes, after all, the big three networks have always been charitable organizatoins supported by spare fatrthings from pale orphans.

weazel

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GrumpyMcGillicutty — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:43:47 EST

@larrydarrell: Really? 80%? Fifty years? Where'd you get those numbers from, FOX News?

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weazel — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:55:06 EST

You all miss the point, ie Faux News is entertainment. Not many viewers take it seriously, but of course that doesn't mean they're not still 'tards. Unlike liberals, they've acknowledged the power elite doesn't care about them and that they're pretty much phucked in 21st century America.

A chunk of Faux' ratings also come from ironic liberals who secretly groove on their dark vibe when no one is around to see them, and who won't even admit it to themselves, ie "I'm fascinated by their horribility" and "I have to see what the opposition is watching" when they really want to see John Gibson get away with something they can't get away with themselves.

(AND if you think you're alone with this, the chat rooms at Redstate are FULL of people who obviously watch Moyers or Olbermeinkampf by flashlight after wifey has gone to bed. )

Spleen vented. Restart? (Y/N/Cancel)

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Withnail — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:17:52 EST

@pre555soul: Small screen, I meant. Tv is small.

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Withnail — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:17:08 EST

@Nick Denton: Agreed. Same thing with talk radio, and Fox is just talk radio on the big screen. Limbaugh came to prominence through railing against the Clintons. He and his ilk at Fox only succesfully reach their audience by channeling the rage of the angry middle class white man, and suckering him into thinking it's the libs/gays who are his worst enemy. And what President is gonna make that guy more pissed, a black man or a woman? It's win win.

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ADismalScience — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:01:24 EST

If the networks are powered by pundilebrities, if this is the competitive business model that's been decided on, shoot me now. I'll just keep watching CNBC then changing to that channel with the fireplace when Cramer's shrieking at me.

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ArtfulSlingerBARACKED THE VOTE — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:55:08 EST

@Nick Denton: Honestly, I think they really want it to happen. Until then, they are just picking on their own and mocking Obama's middle name.

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HOPSCOTCH — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:54:14 EST

@Nick Denton: To give FNC credit where credit is due - it's responsible for creating a new news category. They became market leaders and innovated. MSNBC ape them show for show and CNN scamper behind.

HOPSCOTCH

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Knucklehead Babylon — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:50:05 EST

Eric Boehlert would rather get a curbjob than a blowjob.

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mitchel_stevens — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:44:45 EST

hey, this thread reminds me.
is that red eye show still on?

mitchel_stevens

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Stark_pigeon — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:44:17 EST

I think the stiffest competition for TV financial journalism will not be an American channel. I predict it will come from Asia and have most of its assets in UAE or in Malaysia or India. The unipolar world not being what it used to be, most financial news will have to be global, not U.S.-centric. I think we're going to start seeing a decline for American TV journalism the way we've been seeing American newspaper journalism fall in recent years.

A IPTV-like hybrid of Internet and TV journalism, based in Asia, spoken in English is a real threat to our way of processing the ticker here.

Stark_pigeon

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larrydarrell — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:41:34 EST

i always have the same reaction to people who rail against fox news: now you know how 80 percent of america has felt about cbs news, the new york times, time/newsweek, etc. for the past 50 years.

larrydarrell

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Nick Denton — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:38:30 EST

How about a bit of contrarian, here? What's the worst thing that's happened to Fox News? A Republican administration. An unsuccessful Republican administration. The best thing that could happen? Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, and then the right-wing network can trot out all its best storylines from the 1990s. It's way too early to celebrate Fox News' demise.

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HOPSCOTCH — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:23:24 EST

@larrydarrell: Do you really think that she loathes Joe Scarborough or is it just an act. Her facial expressions are priceless - I even shave watching her - with resultant bleeding.

HOPSCOTCH

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larrydarrell — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:18:25 EST

i love mika bryzinski.... berzinski.... brezhinski.

i love natalie morales.

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koala325 — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:16:17 EST

Oh, I thought this post was going to be something about Matthew Fox.

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mitchel_stevens — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:15:30 EST

"Russert and Matthews" ?
You mean Olbermann and Olbermann. And Contessa "I Can Has Teleprompt?" Brewer to make everyone else at the Star Destroyer feel smarter.

mitchel_stevens

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Sarcastro — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:15:14 EST

Ailes jowls, however, abide.

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HOPSCOTCH — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:14:26 EST

I have always dipped into Fox News (although never thank God to watch O'Reilly) but these last few months I've gravitated to MSNBC. Firstly, Morning Joe is so lame it actually works for me in the morning. Mikka has enough snark in her to fill a few pages of Gawker. Plus you get regular appearances from Blowhard Matthew contradicting all the crap he spouted the previous night. It's bliss.

HOPSCOTCH

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Creepmouse — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:13:48 EST

As long as there are attractive young white chicks to go missing, Fox News will have an audience.

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lionel-mandrake — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:12:15 EST

@lionel-mandrake: "make IT through." Apologies.

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lionel-mandrake — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:11:32 EST

@Bentpost: I get my news from the voices that make through my tinfoil hat.

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ArtfulSlingerBARACKED THE VOTE — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:11:21 EST

This election cycle is going to be interesting since they, and most conservative pundits, obviously do not support McCain in a race to the White House, will they actually lose their effect on Republicans this time around?

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flipper baby — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:10:25 EST

Those two the "blowhardiest?" I mean, yeah, close runners-up, but last I checked O'Reilly still draws breath.

flipper baby

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BettyCrocker — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:10:05 EST

@Bentpost: Really. The people who watch FOX prefer to cook the squirrels in popcorn makers.

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cutierat — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:07:03 EST

It's about time...I never could figure out how they got away with using the word "NEWS" in their title. In the best of all worlds, they will take Rush Limbaugh to their loudmouthed, anti-intellectual, obnoxious grave with them.

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Bentpost — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:04:41 EST

I prefer to get my news from the squirrels in my front yard.

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TheHonJudgeSmails — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:04:17 EST

Meh, doubt it. The only thing Fox News has to fear is the entry of a reliably-conservative rival into the cable news market.

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Henifer Hropes — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:03:15 EST

I hate to be a stickler.. but it's relevAnce.

Will go back to reading the post now..

Henifer Hropes