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Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

RedHotAries — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:58:34 EDT

@VirusWithShoes: Hey, you stole my thought! I'm figuratively beating you up for that.

RedHotAries

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

SpecialK — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:36:03 EDT

The beauty of it is, I'd bitch at you if you took Obama Girl seriously, so you can't win! Identity politics rawk!

SpecialK

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

RachelSklar — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:59:31 EDT

@SpecialK: This is so interesting. I have never questioned my Obama-Girl love and my lady-love. I just think the whole Obama Girl thing is hilarious, and I don't find it demeaning or damaging - it's tongue in cheek which is part of the joke. Does that make me sexist? Issues are hard!

RachelSklar

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

SpecialK — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:55:09 EDT

@Notyourmother: "Your mama's so mandatory healthcare"

"Your mama's so tax and spend"

"Your mama's so 100-year-war"

SpecialK

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

Notyourmother — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:30:44 EDT

@SpecialK: What about "your momma's so Nafta?" Would that work?

Notyourmother

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LoveHandles — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:20:13 EDT

@ADismalScience: Yup. Is Facism not in vogue anymore? If not, can we bring it back?

LoveHandles

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ADismalScience — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 16:10:21 EDT

@LoveHandles:

The backlash was media-driven. Your average American, like it or not, DOES care about why or why not Barack Obama wears a flag lapel pin.

Political debates are designed to provoke discussion about the unique characteristics and brand of the politicians involved. To date, no debate has accomplished that mission as effectively as ABC. You can hate that these issues are important, but you can't hate ABC for having the finger on America's stupid pulse.

ADismalScience

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

LoveHandles — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:56:32 EDT

@bess marvin, girl detective: @ADismalScience: I agree that the more people that pay attention the more the media feels the need to focus on these silly contrived controversies. But look at the backlash against ABC for their god-awful debate. It was pretty strong and widespread. I think a vast majority of people saw it for what it was and I'm sure ABC wish they had a do-over.

But, in the end, you're both right. The more people that pay attention, the more simplified the coverage has to be for major media outlets. This is becuase the average political IQ of most Americans is not that high. We know that. Doesn't make them bad people. I think it's a bit elitist though to say that they don't have the right to get interested now. It kind of points to an elephant in the room if we pay lip service to democracy when only a small percentage of people vote / take interest in politics and we bemoan how dismal that is, then when more people finally do take interest, we get frustrated at how behind they are. They haven't been paying attention... they have to catch up.

To be clear, I think it's fair to demand more. But... isn't that the problem with democracy? You can't force everyone to be intelligent about the process.. and inevitably, a lot of people won't be. So what do we really want? It does, I think, come down to asking ourselves: are we really for democracy or not?

LoveHandles

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

SpecialK — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:07:59 EDT

RE: The Debates
That's right, because listening to Barack and Hillary say for the 22nd time they're going to take the troops out of Iraq and repeal Nafta is going to tell us so much more. What they should do is get 'em in a game of "Your mama's so fat" and let 'em go at it ... or, in this case, "Your mama's so white"

SpecialK

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intothelight — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:05:20 EDT

keith olbermann said something stupid and offensive. nope, i got nothing.

intothelight

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

ADismalScience — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:58:49 EDT

@bess marvin, girl detective:

That's Democracy, though.

Of course, Democracy is done best when the idiots stay home.

ADismalScience

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

bess marvin, girl detective — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:56:34 EDT

@LoveHandles: not really. have you seen the debates? the questions are stupid, the moderators inept, and the voters in these states are just looking bad (or the media shows them to be so) by focusing on flag lapels and pastors.

bess marvin, girl detective

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

ADismalScience — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:53:27 EDT

@LoveHandles:

Inviting more people into the process does the opposite of what you say it does. More Americans expressing their political opinions and participating in the process = much more inane crap. Every additional voter Southwest of Philadelphia and East of LA that cares about this election is another voter that cares about lapel pins.

ADismalScience

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SpecialK — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:53:03 EDT

I'd take Sklar more seriously about femiladyism if she wasn't directly involved in the advancement of Obama Girl.

SpecialK

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lawyergay — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:49:54 EDT

I actually read about that Olbermann quote yesterday and was immediately appalled and then watched it (and replayed it several times) last night. Granted, he is embarrassingly pro-Obama, but what I THINK he meant was that only Obama comes out, and that he was using a really bad and too easily interpreted as wife-beatery metaphor for some kind of smoke filled room-type of negotiation that would result in Hillary dropping out. But then again, he did have that rabid gleam in his eye when he said it. Or was it the Oliver People's glasses? I can't tell anymore.

lawyergay

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FitnessMadeSimple — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:48:32 EDT

I suspect the Democratic nominee was picked months ago and Ashton Kutcher has just been toying with us ever since.

FitnessMadeSimple

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

LoveHandles — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:41:18 EDT

I don't believe the conventional wisdom that the longer this goes on the worst it is for the party. I think it's good for the party and it's good for the country. Everyone's paying attention. I think the exasberation from the pundits is having more people paying attention and throwing out their two cents than normal inside the beltway boys and everyone knows what happens when you get too many cooks in the kitchen. But this is actually good. Everyone used to bemoan the state of political interest and now that they have it, they want it to go away. An evenly matched fued is good, not bad. Now if we can just focus on issues of substance instead of, say, flag lapels and such (I'm looking at you ABC!)

LoveHandles

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

Rumpelstilskin — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:35:09 EDT

I thought Olberman meant Hil would emerge from the room as a penis owner. Oh well.

Rumpelstilskin

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iplaudius — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:25:30 EDT

The wrestlers wade in, though
for all intensive purposes,
they were prostate with grief.

iplaudius

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

bess marvin, girl detective — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:13:42 EDT

@Furious George: i always wondered how the democratic party would lose the election this year. now i know.

bess marvin, girl detective

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

VirusWithShoes — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:10:12 EDT

I'm so fucking bored by the inanity of humanity.

And whale-song.

VirusWithShoes

Blood-Thirsty Pundits Demand Violent End to Primaries

Furious George — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:08:02 EDT

At this point the dems should just start handing out McCain '08 bumper stickers. It's sad, mildly amusing, and even somewhat embarrassing watching them pry defeat from the jaws of victory once again.

Furious George

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Knucklehead Babylon — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:06:53 EDT

Olberman's pretty awful. Not Pete Dougherty armpit awful, more like Amy Winehouse's sheets awful.

Knucklehead Babylon

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SixThirty — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:05:56 EDT

I've been hoping they would settle this with a knife fight for quite some time, but Olberman gets closer to the real solution:

Thunderdome. Two Will Enter. One Will Leave.

SixThirty

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Private Hangnail — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:04:56 EDT

Let's get her pregnant! Knocked up and barefoot, that's the way.

Private Hangnail