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Art School's Julia Allison Training Program

mylittleonetrickpony — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:32:08 EST

@MisterHippity: I will pay you 50 cents to ignore me.

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Hez — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:36:17 EST

@Ian Spiegelman:"Internet Mongoloid In Need of Killing" is officially going to be the name of my next blog. Thanks for that.

Where are you and Karion registered, and would you like the large gravy boat or the electric pepper mill?

And I'm sorry, but karionian.com sounds way better - removing the "and" makes it sound all hot and adjectivvy. "Oh, Spiegelman, that tie makes you look positively Karionian!"

@sarahm: No, we're not. Despite what Rush&Molly [sic] might lead you to believe, not all commenters here have friends/followers numbering in the double digits. But most of the really funny ones do.

Hez

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sarahm — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:02:23 EST

Oh and one more thing, @chickenjungle, did that happen because you pulled a stunt?

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sarahm — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:43:18 EST

@chickenjungle, lol!! Wtf?

Is this what are you talking about?

[www.jossip.com]

All you guys are celebrities! ROFL

sarahm

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chickenjungle — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:01:47 EST

@sarahm:
Oh, OH, Me, Meeeee!

I was in Rush&Molly this past Monday, just for getting thrown out of a restaurant! (Top THAT shit, bitches.)

Hi, Sarah!
:)

xoxo
abbe diaz
PX This.

chickenjungle

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sarahm — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:32:54 EST

@KarenUhOh, so you are a B-? I'm the girl in the video you see and have always considered myself a B too. So why have I not heard of you?

Anyway, I'm discovering new micro-celebrities every day so if anyone has some suggestions on people to interview or talk about please email me Sarah@Pop17.com or just post a comment in this thread with your suggestions and I will read them here later. Thanks Gawker peeps!

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chickenjungle — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:54:33 EST

@Ian Spiegelman:
Ya know, not to beat the decaying corpse... But why does every single Gawker writer use Julia A. as the whipping post when it comes to self-promotion and over-exposure when her much-lamer, vomit-inducing, unfunny, zero-sense-that-he's-a-joke, ex, Jakob Lob-stunt is available for abuse?

Umm... cuz she got pretty boobies that get 10,000+ pageviews ($7.50 x 10 = !!) and he don't?

I'm just sayin.

chickenjungle

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KarenUhOh — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:04:48 EST

I've always been a B- individual. This is perfect for me.

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ninety_nine — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:06:05 EST

NB: I didn't read a comment on this thread, but based on the names that raced by, none of you went to art school right? Okay, who still goes to Parsons thinking it is something other than the art school that rates geometrically lower than SVA on the art school hierarchy of value? Note, SVA is somewhere around the basement to begin with. All this Internet hoo-hah, Julia Allison-begging for slipshod Nick Douglas half assery aside, no one, no one gives a fuck about Parsons, that fashion guy notwithstanding.

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belltolls — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:55:21 EST

@MisterHippity: Can I pay you in clicks?

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IBentMyWookie — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:56:59 EST

@MisterHippity: Brilliant. And here I am, just giving it away for free...like a sucker.

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MisterHippity — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:49:35 EST

Now I just need to get people to start paying attention to my comments ...

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MisterHippity — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:48:04 EST

Look, I ain't no highfalutin' economist or anything, but even I can see that there's a growing glut of people out there who desperately want people to PAY ATTENTION TO THEM (despite offering nothing of value in return for that attention) and a inversely shrinking, highly-sought-after pool of other people left over who could potentially act as the audience.

Therefore, it seems obvious that it's a buyer's market for the latter group, who should be in very high demand for their attention-paying services.

So the next step is obvious: All of these fameball-wannabe attention whores need to start PAYING PEOPLE to pay attention to them. I mean, it's the only logical solution.

I'm game ... I'll pay attention to the highest bidder.

Attention fameball-wannabe attention whores: E-mail me at misterhippity@yahoo.com with your best monetary offer for my attention-paying services. I will pay my rapt, undivided attention to the highest bidder, effective immediately.

I need to set up a PayPal account to prepare for this. Also, I should probably set something up on eBay ....

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rod — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:46:56 EST

Comment A:
A better strategy? Internet reclusive. If your numbers never become huge, you can claim it to have been your strategy.

Comment B:
Dear Professor Jamie Wilkinson:
Hello.
Rod

rod

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narnio — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:35:50 EST

@Ryan Tate: yep

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Ryan Tate — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:18:17 EST

@Conbon: @But @I @Can't @Say @I @Didn't @Know @What @I @Was @Getting @into! (Just a little threading -- srsly -- on the tech side would help readability so, so much.)

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pourtant — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 22:07:35 EST

Parsons is nothing but a money pit. This sounds like some B.S. from their "AAS" program.

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:50:55 EST

Gotta go do a work thing I didn't get done this afternoon. It was fun rewiring the universe and then watching it settle down into an adorable romance. G'night, lovebirds.

Michael Jahn

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:48:18 EST

And now... To sleep. I'm lecturing at Yale tomorrow at a libel course. Yeah, I know it's scary. But still, to sleep...

'Night Karion, my awesome bride! To sleep!

Ian Spiegelman

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:45:31 EST

@karion: I think it's lovely, if a bit sparse.

JL will hang pictures of himself all over our love-nest! And that is not a face I want to see!

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:45:22 EST

@Michael Jahn: I have no complaints.

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karion — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:41:20 EST

@Ian Spiegelman:

Oh email - our first date - and so soon after we got married. I will email you when I get home. In the interim, I took the liberty of designing our first home. Have a look and remember that I don't do internet designing for a living.

Maybe we could hire JL. I somehow think he might be better at it than JA.

karion

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:37:35 EST

@Conbon: We've worn out this thread, and I for one am unwilling at this time of night to switch over and deal with Foreigner.

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:37:22 EST

I meant to talk about the tumblr thing. Coz I don't really know what that is. Geez.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:34:45 EST

@Ryan Tate: This place is such a chatroom.

Conbon

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:31:12 EST

@karion:

Oh Karion... Light of my life.. we are married now. We are! And I could not be happier!

We could maybe email about it, but we don't know each other's emails! Mine is ian @ my full name dot come.

I am so happy to finally be married to you, K! Yay!

Ian Spiegelman

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karion — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:28:02 EST

@Conbon:
Of course. We're all homelesss.

I just have to learn how.

karion

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:26:38 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: You're underestimating the power of the word "author," especially "critically acclaimed author." Trust me.

Also, it sets you up for the rest of your life in the sense that everything you do is research and if you someday have to take a job as a night watchman or something you can rationalize it as being what authors do while working on the big one.

Michael Jahn

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valet_of_the_dolls — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:25:53 EST

@She Blinded Me With Omniscience: Or worse - they think that you're referencing the episode of The Simpsons that parodied whatever it is you're referring to.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:24:41 EST

@karion: You guys better have comments.

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karion — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:19:45 EST

@Ian Spiegelman:

So very ahead of you, cupcake. I think by JA-JL standards, we just got married.

karion

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:18:18 EST

@Michael Jahn: Yeah, that and $200 dollars will get me... well, fill it in. Crap.

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:16:02 EST

@karion: Crap! You answered while I was writing to you!

Alsp, the very last copy Amazon had? Really?

I think we need to grab karionandian.com immediately! It would be just like that movie with Liz Perkins, except please don't throw a coffee mug at my head ever? Please?

Ian Spiegelman

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:14:34 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: But for the rest of your life you can add the word "author" after your name.

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:10:12 EST

@karion: Ug... Stupid fingers of mine. I meant, if you actually ordered the second novel I wrote, I must marry you at once. Or clean your apartment.

And the last thing was, Wow did that thing die fast! Meaning my second novel.

Grr. Arrgh.

But sales aren't everything. Right? I'm gonna cry.

Ian Spiegelman

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:07:37 EST

I'll be in San Francisco next week. I see from his site(s) to which we were directed earlier today that Jakob is there too, smarting from the pummelling he got from his former beloved. Want me to deliver a message -- stand under his window with a rose in my teeth or something?

Michael Jahn

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karion — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:06:52 EST

@Ian Spiegelman:

Welcome to Yesterday. I got the last one on Amazon!

I don't know much about JL, but I don't think I can jump to any conclusion that his companies didn't need him. I suspect they needed him at least as much as Star Magazine needs JA. I would put Jakob on my "phone a friend" list (sad little Who Wants to be a Millionaire reference)long before I would her, even if the question was about Desperate Housewives.

We truly need our own karionandian.com domain, don't we? It will be like that Elizabeth Perkins-Kevin Bacon movie, only funny and entertaining! We could be the internets' first blog-only couple!

karion

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FORGETITJAKE — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:06:23 EST

@Michael Jahn: ...the whole point was to get famous -- And the joke is on the world. Got to admire that while despising it.

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:01:16 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: Whoops, meant this for MJ

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:00:09 EST

@BalknChain: I was wrestling with some commenters and then it changed... It felt icky.

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:59:26 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: Gotcha. Been down that road.

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:57:58 EST

@BalknChain: Oh, there you are. If you keep changing your avatar I'll be completely lost.

Warhol and his cadre were a bunch of real and would-be artists and other creative types sitting around a loft or whatever it was getting whacked and making up things with which to amuse themselves. And then imagining that their creations were important to everyone. Superstars. Andy would have loved the Internet. He would have especially loved this Parsons thing. He would have loved thuggish paparazzi. The whole point was to get famous.

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BalknChain — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:54:16 EST

@Michael Jahn: I hope you asked before you Googled Ian. No means no

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:52:31 EST

@Michael Jahn: That would make a total of ten, counting my Mom, Dad, and cousins.

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:51:38 EST

@karion: My love! Well, I still don't agree that Jakob's "companies" needed him at all. I still say he just established domains where people smarter than him could post content.

And you may be right about my sympathy for JA. I don't like all the picking-on. But it really is because they leave Jakob alone and he sucks!

But which book did you order? I mean, no one earth bought my second novel, and that's the one that deals with gossip and fame and whatnot. If you actually ordered that one I truly must marry as soon as possible. Or at least clean your apartment or something. I mean, wow, did thing die fast!

Now, how do we set up our own he-said-she-said blog?

Ian Spiegelman

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:50:06 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: Oh, okay. Googled you. I thought your name was familiar. Miramax Books, eh? I'll pick up a copy.

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BalknChain — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:46:37 EST

@Michael Jahn: I agree about VU. Also, don't get the Warhol soup can logic/art. In fact, I hate it.

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karion — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:43:31 EST

@Ian Spiegelman:

Hello lover. Didn't we have this debate last night? Jakob had a hand in creating two successful companies. Julia talks about herself and Britney Spears for a living, when she isn't posting pictures of herself.

I think you have gossip columnist sympathy for her, which I understand. Except you wrote a well received book for your troubles. Which I ordered.

I give credit where due.

karion

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:40:55 EST

@Michael Jahn: Well, you're welcome. But I know there are more of us. It's so cold in Alaska my ass.

Ian Spiegelman

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:38:17 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: Thank you for being the only other person I have run into who thinks that the Velvet Underground is hugely overrated.

Michael Jahn

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:35:51 EST

@Michael Jahn: I wouldn't argue with that, except that I think Andy's Factory created nothing of interest except, a tiny bit, the Velvet Underground, and they are hugely overrated.

But I actually really enjoy a lot of Gawker's commenters and writers. I don't enjoy Andy's crap-ass silk screens and cloying fruit hangers-on. But, then, I don't really get 20th Century art beyond Jasper Johns.

Ian Spiegelman

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SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:31:07 EST

@Conbon: OK- here's your trig hw, and the Steinbeck paper will be done tonight, I promise.. can I keep my lunch money this time?

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:24:16 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: Not in this new world it ain't. It IS living. We created a bunch of colorful characters none of whom seem to do much but attract a great deal of attention, and we're all sitting around talking about them. Gawker is the new Factory.

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Hythloday — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:23:52 EST

@Michael Jahn: I'm pretty sure the only truly tragic thing about Our Fast-Paced Modern Life is that no one's found a reflecting pool big enough for the entire Internet to fall into.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:21:04 EST

@SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley: Yeah, but the funny thing here is that none of the people on the internet are actually cool.

EXCEPT FOR ME NOW DO MY HOMEWORK LOSER.

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CreativeUnderclass — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:20:53 EST

Am I in the minority in thinking this is actually a great concept for a class? I'd take it in a second (and fail).

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SneakingThroughTheAlleyWithLalley — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:18:15 EST

Taking a class whereupon your grade is determined by pagehits/internet popularity is like my biggest middle school fear materialized. While school sucked if you didn't lunch @ the 'cool' table, at least I always had the being good at class thing down.

Don't take that away from the uncool, Parsons!!

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:18:02 EST

@Michael Jahn: Why on earth would anyone want a Warhol moment? You're not supposed to want that. The Wharhol experience is the opposite of living.

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Obviously Not Omniscient — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:16:34 EST

@valet_of_the_dolls: Passive, egotistical and stupid... the insidious attrition of the quest for knowledge and wisdom - as opposed to just sound bites and distraction - is nearly terrifying to me (e.g.: making literary or historical references and knowing many people can only relate if they saw the movie.)

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:15:17 EST

@LolCait: I dunno. I like the JA. Thing. You've created your own fameball reality. I sense a Warhol moment.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:15:03 EST

Where's George? We need a locker room discussion about this Sarah Myers person. Also, Shallon Lester from yesterday.

Conbon

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:08:11 EST

@LolCait: I thank you.

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LolCait — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:07:07 EST

@Ian Spiegelman: I think that's a fair point.

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valet_of_the_dolls — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:04:55 EST

@Michael Jahn: I'm reminded of Neil Postman's observation (in Amusing Ourselves to Death, I think) that the difference between 1984 & Brave New World is that Orwell imagined a world in which information would be suppressed and disappear, and Huxley imagined a world with so much information - much of it useless - that people would be rendered passive and egotistical by the glut of it.

Welcome to the orgyporgy, everyone.

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Ian Spiegelman — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:03:40 EST

Ya know, not to beat the decaying corpse... But why does every single Gawker writer use Julia A. as the whipping post when it comes to self-promotion and over-exposure when her much-lamer, vomit-inducing, unfunny, zero-sense-that-he's-a-joke, ex, Jakob Lob-stunt is available for abuse?

I mean, fuck! Sure, Julia can test one's patience, but Jakob coined the term "fameball" and APPLIED IT TO HIMSELF despite the fact that he has never actually done anything, anywhere, ever.

Julia's kind of... Yeah. But, holy fuck! She never credited herself with as many imaginary laurels as shit-assed-unfunny-douche-slouch Jakob did. Look back at his history. This squirming little shit really thinks he did something, the preening sissy.

Nick, Richard, et al... Can't you maybe focus on a more insultingly self-referential piece of nothing when discussing "Internet Fame"? At least Julia doesn't seem to think it means much more than getting invited to parties. Jakob thinks it makes him someone important and quotable. But he really is just another freaking Internet Mongoloid in need of killing.

Love,
Ian

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:57:25 EST

@Michael Jahn: My point being that even the weirdest space cadet can find a way to thrive once he outlives those who know he's full of shit. In ten years these Parsons kids will have made the Internet three-dimensional (truly three dimensional, I don't want to hear anything about the tao of hyperlinks) and ten years after that we'll all live inside it. Probably pretty comfortably, too. Social Security. Medicare drug benefits. Which we'll really need.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:55:31 EST

That's better.

@LolCait: Now my brain is just the echo of a faint whirring sound.

Conbon

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LolCait — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:54:20 EST

@Conbon: HAH.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:53:17 EST

Accio Comments!

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LolCait — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:50:51 EST

@Conbon: To make Famous meaningful you'd have to make Famous famous but it would have to be meaningful to be famous so Famous would have to be famous in order to be itself.

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:50:32 EST

Oh god here I go with age again, but this bullshit reminds me of the Matrix bullshit which reminds me of a lot of the acid damage kicking around in 1967. "There's no such thing as reality." "Computers run or are everything." "We're trapped inside a computer-generated illusion." I find it entertaining that the most intense acid freak mental illusionist I ran into in those days morphed seamlessly into computer programming. He went from one false reality to another. He probably surfaced in Silican Valley in the late 70s and now works for Steve Jobs. Or is Steve Jobs. These Parsons kids are probably his grandchildren.

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Conbon — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:48:37 EST

@LolCait: I would like to make Famous meaningful.

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LolCait — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:47:45 EST

@She Blinded Me With Omniscience: Especially not on the internet. But if the internet became Internet Famous then everyone would talk about the internet on the internet making it Internet Famous all over again and again and again until the world has spun itself dark and all that's left is an echo of a faint whirring sound.

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Obviously Not Omniscient — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:44:25 EST

@LolCait: That would be cool, because you never hear anyone talking about it.

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LolCait — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:42:09 EST

I would like to make the internet Internet Famous.

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In Other News... — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:39:16 EST

@Michael Jahn: Or, I am, therefore I blog. Can't drink my own coffee today.

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In Other News... — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:38:11 EST

@Michael Jahn: Conversely, I blog, therefore I am. And,

If a tree falls in a forest, dare we make toothpicks?

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TedSez — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:37:57 EST

What ever happened to just cutting off your ear?

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:36:05 EST

@che_leo: Tough graders, they would be.

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:32:11 EST

You're in a tree and the forest falls, who hears you?

Alternatively,

I blog, therefore I am.

Michael Jahn

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Buzz Killington — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:31:58 EST

Oh dear. We're really doomed, aren't we? Sorry, but it makes no difference who the president is, what countries we invade, or who has or doesn't have medical coverage. Internet 'fame' is considered by an entire generation to be the single most important metric of human worth, and there is very little which is deemed unacceptable to achieve it, nearly to the distraction of all else.

These kids aren't old enough to do any real damage yet, but we're in for a very, VERY bumpy ride in about ten years or so, when they'll need to attempt to be productive members of society with jobs and bills and such.

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che_leo — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:31:20 EST

@Michael Jahn: Future Parsons adjunct faculty: [blogs.guardian.co.uk]

che_leo

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In Other News... — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:30:32 EST

Would Norman Rockwell be sitting on a stool in front of a canvas, looking not at a mirror but a video of himself uploaded to YouTube?

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In Other News... — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:29:21 EST

So, no still life, lotsa self-portraits. Got it.

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Michael Jahn — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:29:18 EST

This is a Dr. Who episode, isn't it. The new season.

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Obviously Not Omniscient — Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:27:12 EST

Since one is considered to be a failure in life if no one recognizes you, it makes cutting-edge sense to learn this indelible lesson in college/art school.

Obviously Not Omniscient